- batam land on sale most probably another scam on the way. As investors,we have to consider certain points here. 1. The Indonesia government is very unstable in nature and it's policy against foreign investers can be vary accordingly (due to any variation in government policies, the contract we enter for sale of land can be void for act of frustration - as buyers we have very slim chance to get back our money and note that by this way our money will be burned forever). 2. The land they intend or prosposed to sell no worth for the money we have invested. We are not aware and correctly advised about the actual value of the land. We must understand here we cannot get any unbiased advise from Lecruz team about the real value of the proposed land in any event. Why we must agree to exchange our money for something we are not sure of anything and end up facing unwanted consequences even losing the land completely and not getting back any of our investment back. 3. Mind this by agreeing to the new contract to buy land the old contract for the investment is gone forever. In the event any undue circumstances we cannot get back any of our money and land as well. Also the terms in the sale of land will be drafted by their lawyers ( 4. Now if any of us pesuaded by the new proposal the person end up losing more by means of legal fees and accumulating charges. So the scam is in new form and their idea is to cheat us as long as we are willing to listen to them. 5. Ok, even if we buy the land what will happen to us. What we are going to do with the piece of land. The idea of our hard earn investment is for good return and not for undeveloped piece of land. If the land is what we intend for we might as well buy in Malaysia rather in Batam. Remember that they got no right to push the land as a compensation for our money unless we are still willingly listining to their unbelievable chain of stories. The decision is still ours. So guys please advise others not to be stupid anymore. We must stand united to get back our money and not to be fools anymore. Regards,Shan
- December 16, 2009 5:26 AM
Wednesday, December 16, 2009
Batam Land : Anonymous 55
Friday, December 4, 2009
Anonymous 52,53 and 54
- Yes , a lot of talking and blogging cannot solve the problem . We need the real action of reporting the case Interpol , Bukit Aman 's CCID , Macau Authority or even Indonesia Police to catch the thiefs " Wijaya and Oh How Leong. Not forgetting ddrag the Gang of Eight under Commercial Crime case. We don't need to blog till the cow come home....
- December 2, 2009 4:00 AM
- Anonymous 53 said...
- Hi, I agree with Alagan. It's almost 3 months and nothing we are receivng. Even we transfered our cp, the money has not bank in yet and is one month already. It's bullshit that Wijaya is saying that we will receive money in the bank 15 to 20 working days. It doesn't work. Can any leader HELP US? We feel that NO ACTION being taken.
- December 2, 2009 5:30 PM
- Anonymous 54 said...
- I also havent received money .Already over 20 days .What c
Tuesday, December 1, 2009
The front line is getting too cold guys! :Alagan
- . Looks like everyone is talking but there is no action. Can someone from the top advice the bloggers and investers what is the next step we must take. Guys, we are only making noise and suggestions but who is going to tie the bell onto the cat???
- December 1, 2009 4:19 AM
Scam team ? :Anonymous 51
- I always heard many of you guys said you have lost so much money and how disappointed you are but seems like almost none of the Chinese guys have taken any action except for one Chinese lady in KL, not in any meeting before,not now and I don't think in future you will do anything, you people are just good at Bullshitting! Most of you are just part of the scam team! I respect the blogger in this blog,even I don't know who they are but at least they are doing something- blogging.
- November 30, 2009 9:39 AM
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Friday, November 27, 2009
Meeting ASAP : Anonymous 50
- i suggest that all uplines to start gather their downlines for a meeting ASAP. And consider lodging a formal complaint together to any party relevant including the police. We have again and again waited for Mr.WJ and lecruz to come out with an acceptable compensation or refund, but every time we have been taken a ride around the world and back to where we started. The compensation doesn't even state how much we profit from the current investment, but have to wait for such a long period just to get back the initial amount of money invested(or maybe less or none at all). Nor were we given a chance to withdraw from the investment altogether right now. To be honest, I'd be happy even if I lose 10% of my initial investment as long as I can get back the rest of my money... Its time we take action
- November 26, 2009 2:38 PM
Thursday, November 26, 2009
Only 30% of Sept. Investment went into the rolling chip.: Anonymous 49
- Only 30% of September investment went into rolling chips! What took the rest of the cash? Obviously the pay out for CP came from new investments and not the company. Therefore, the company should have used the money already in its posession to be paid for CP , gained from rolling chips in the past,to invest! If it could not do that, it means there is no profit making as they claim from rolling chips. We had been duped. What they are effectively saying is they ran a pyramid/ponzi scam. Using new investment to pay old investors. This is admitting to commiting a crime! The only profit they made is our money mostly from September and August investments. That is why they are doing all they can to avoid paying for CP even at HK 2.00, and give all kind of silly reasons. Paying us means they have got less profit from the scam.
- November 26, 2009 5:10 AM
Sunday, November 22, 2009
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Result of a Scammer : Anonymous 46 &47
- Tell you what one scammer, in one other scam got. Victims reported to them police, but as usual prosecution fail to establish a credible case on tecnical grouds. Instead the uplines got into trouble and held by police. He was threatened by someone on phone to jab his children with needle bought from drug addicts. One day in a crowded pasar malam somebody stick a needle on his back. The scammer could not identify who. People who earn money the wrong way thru MLM scam, can buy big cars and houses; but they will pay the price. Nothing is free.
- November 18, 2009 5:03 AM
- Anonymous 47 said...
- You are right, nothing is free. They can be happy for now but just wait and see how long they can enjoy with other people's hard earned money. They can cheat certain people at certain time but they can't cheat all the people all the time.Soon the the time will come. There may be 20 over ass holes on their sides but there are thousand others who suffered the lost. Lets see how it ends.
- November 18, 2009 7:13 AM
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