Reply : Anonymous 34

Oh Ya! That is what you got to get prepared.Thank you so much for all this info.

LAT010

Anonymous 34 said...

Below are list to consider. Please start link to photos and other material which cannot be posted in this blog. Time to start next step. Part 1. Investor Affairs and Complaints Department Securities Commission Malaysia 3, Persiaran Bukit Kiara Bukit Kiara 50490 Kuala Lumpur General Line: 603-6204 8000 Tel: 603-6204 8999/8777 Fax: 603-6204 8991 E-mail: aduan@seccom.com.my http://www.rmp.gov.my/ http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/reporting.php http://www.cassa.org.my/home.htm http://www.en.cap.org.my/ http://www.fomca.org.my/ Chow Kon Yeow http://chow.blogsome.com/ Lim Kit Siang http://blog.limkitsiang.com/ Fong Po Kuan - Chamber Of Thoughts http://pokuan.blogsome.com/ Shahrir Samad http://www.shahrir-umno.blogspot.com/ http://clickfraudscam.blogspot.com/ Tan Seng Giaw http://tansenggiaw.blogspot.com/ Teresa Kok http://teresakok.blogsome.com/ The Star Citizen's Blog http://blog.thestar.com.my/ Consumers Association Of Penang - CAP http://www.cap.org.my/ 10 Jalan Masjid Negeri, 11600 Penang Tel: 04 829 9511, Fax: 04 829 8109 ERA Consumer Malaysia - Education & Research Association For Consumers Malaysia http://www.eraconsumer.org/ 4 Jalan SS 1/22A, 47300 Petaling Jaya Tel: 03 7876 4648, Fax: 03 7873 0636 National Consumer Complaints Centre NCCC - Pudat Khidmat Aduan Pengguna Nasional http://www.nccc.org.my/ Petaling Jaya Community Centre - PJCC http://komuniti.virtualave.net/pjcc/ Rukun Tetangga, Jalan 17/31, 46400 Petaling Jaya Tel: 03 7958 1741 DAP - Democratic Action Party - Parti Tindakan Demokratik http://dapmalaysia.org/ 24 Jalan 20/9, 46300 Petaling Jaya, Selangor Tel: 03 7957 8022, Fax: 03 7957 5718 Keadilan - Parti Keadilan Rakyat http://www.keadilanrakyat.org/ 75A Jalan Lawan Pedang 13/27, Tadisma Business Park, 40000 Shah Alam, Selangor Tel: 03 5513 3416, Tel: 03 5512 9646 Lee Hwa Beng Service Center - State Assemblyman for Subang Jaya http://hwabeng.org.my/ MCA - Malaysian Chinese Association http://www.mca.org.my/ Tingkat 8, Wisma MCA, 163, Jalan Ampang, 50450 Kuala Lumpur Tel: 03 2161 8044 MCA Public Service And Complaint Department Tingkat 8, Wisma MCA, 163, Jalan Ampang, 50450 Kuala Lumpur Tel: 03 21618044, 03 2163 2305 (Hotline) MIC - Malaysian Indian Congress http://www.mic.org.my/ 6th Floor, Menara Manickavasagam, 1 Jalan Rahmat, 50350 Kuala Lumpur Tel: 03 4042 4377, Fax: 03 4042 7236 Complaints.com.my http://www.complaints.com.my/ Consumer.com.my/ http://www.consumer.com.my/ Attorney General's Chambers of Malaysia - AG - Jabatan Peguam Negara Malaysia http://www.agc.gov.my/ Level 1-8 Block C3, Parcel C, Federal Government Administrative Center, 62512 Putrajaya Tel: 03 8885 5000, Fax: 03 8888 9362 Legal Aid Bureau - Biro Bantuan Guaman http://www.bheuu.gov.my/ Jabatan Perdana Menteri Aras 1, Blok B7, Parcel B, Pusat Pentadbiran, Kerajaan Persekutuan, 62502 Putrajaya Tel:03 8888 1117, Fax: 03 8888 3791 Berita Harian - Bahasa Malaysia newspaper http://www.bharian.com.my/ Balai Berita, 31 Jalan Riong, 59100 Kuala Lumpur Tel: 03 2282 2323 Fax: 03 2283 2425, 03 22824340, E-mail: bh@bharian.com.my Business Times http://www.btimes.com.my/ Balai Berita 31, Jalan Riong, 59100 Kuala Lumpur Tel: 03 2282 2628, Fax: 03 2282 7600, 03-22825424, E-mail: bt@nstp.com.my China Press - Chinese newspaper http://www.chinapress.com.my/ 80, Jalan Riong, Off Jalan Bangsar, 59100 Kuala Lumpur Tel: 03 2282 8208

November 15, 2009 6:05 PM

Reply : Anonymous 32 & 33

There is a big problem as nobody have really  seen the directors except for VJ who has been managing the junket business for LeCruz in Macau all this while.Any of you guys like to investigate further do write to us, we can share with you some info. that we have dug up.

Never give up hope so fast. We just had our very first online meeting.This is just the beginning...in fact we have not even started yet...Anyway we understand that...Actions speaks louder than words! But some of us here is requesting to give them at least 2 weeks to see if VJ would come out with something good for everyone.That was what agreed upon in the meeting. Anyway majority of us respected those who have taken action.

LAT009

 

Anonymous32 said...

Where are the directors and management team of Le Cruz? Why are they not obligated to answer the investors??? Clock and dagger type of meeting at the middle of the night in a bedroom. I can't really believe it!!! It is insulting to everyone who put in their trust with this company.

November 13, 2009 5:42 AM

Anonymous33 said...

Well guys not much hope of getting any of our investment back. Those who has fallen for their "Top up plan" to consider alternative either you make it hard for them to escape looking at the trend and signals or collectively expose them. No other way left or wait for more disappointment and suffer in silence. Or do nothing.

November 13, 2009 8:20 PM

Reply : Anonymous 31

 Thanks for sharing, Yup! That's right ! The Hong Kong tycoon have once said " if you want to be successful in anything , you must not have fear! Once you have fear you 're already lost". We are here still wondering what are you guys/ladies have in mind. We have about 9 thousand investors and more than 95% have not recover their capital and till now only less than 500 who have wrote to us or have posted to this blog. You guys happy with the investment return ??? or...have applied what we learnt from Tycoon Li " When others are not aware, Li Know What he does!" To us here  we still feels that we got to take action against Lecruz if they do not refund our capital(esp. Sept.),whoever have manipulated the MLM system, is up to Lecruz to take action against them. All of us can help Lecruz to track the culprit behind this scam.That wouldn't be too difficult isn't it?

 

LAT009(Glad to be part of LAT,Thanks!)

 

Anonymous 31 said...

Meeting in Genting took place with most investors not knowing it. How is this possible? This shows guilt.When taking in our investment, they gave free dinner and talks but told to bank in cash to upline account. They said 'somebody must sponsor each investor'.This a well planned scam from the start. They wanted to put the person who sponsor in trouble. Now they have private meetings in VJ's bedroom, luckily not in toilet. This guys are hidding in the dark. They fear honest light of day. Nevermind if lose our money, let's fix them for good. To hope for return of our money is of little use. IF WE FEAR OF LOSING, MORE LIKELY WE ARE TO LOSE. IF WE DARE, THEY ARE FINISHED.If VJ is taking the blame for Lecruz goof-up, obviously he is working for some big lady/guy in Lecruz. He is only the front man, the fall guy. Once we understand how this whole scam works, we can figure where to put the sparner to jam the wheel.Once we inflict damage, where it going to hurt most, Lecruz will likely to cut loss by repaying us. Begging and praying to them is not going to work. Hit them. Hit them hard where it is going to hurt the most.

November 15, 2009 5:04 AM

Reply : Anonymous28,29&30

Thanks for sharing and we welcome any comments and suggestion on this blog. If there is something that you would like to suggest to us and not to be published , you guys may also write to us:

Lecruzpenang@gmail.com

We agree with what you have suggested but sometimes we do not know who is who as most  people are still using "Anonymous", well its better to leave it that way. Those things that we do not want to be published ,we also do not want it to be landed into the wrong hands .Right?

Well,For video.. you may use Youtube and for photo you can use http://picasaweb.google.com (use new gmail a/c), www.photoblog.com or http://fotopages.com. You may upload pictures/videos then send us your link.Wouldn't that be better?

 LAT

Anonymous28 said...

Those who went for the meeting, in Genting on 3 Nov, came back no wiser. They all feel being fooled by VJ and gang of 8. (They were made to wait like fools in the corridor, from 8pm till 5am. Actual meeting took place in VJ's bed room for one hour or so around midnight!) I wish blogger can do something to the blog, so that those want to be in loop of LECRUZ SCAM chain e-mail can be included. ie they can leave their e-mail address here and we can e-mail them the sensitive pictures, vedios and other details on LECRUZ SCAM. Those info n pictures we can't put on blog and risk the blogger get into legal tangle. This aspect of networking is missing. Someone please think to fill in this gap somehow. VJ apparently gave vague answers, not commiting anything specific for anybody to be optimistic. Everybody feel,they will make away with most of the money, if possible. The fact is they ONLY FEAR OF TSUNAMI INVESTOR REACTION. They are doing all they can to buy time for the response to die down or as last resort HOODWINK US TO SIGN SOME AGREEMENT WITH VJ ( probably thru "Vtoria.com" ) TO ABSOLVE LECRUZ OF RESPONSIBLITY. VJ will then probably declare himself bankrupt, and legally this issue is closed! The group which went for meeting, claim tried their best, to get ONLY refund of balance capital (without interest) within next 6 months - even that VJ refused to commit. (He only committed to come with new schedule of payment, with August and September investors getting 50% capital refund, by end of November.Hopefully.) His excuse was, they made hardly any money for month of August and September, due to overpayment of high divident. So he was questioned how is he going to pay the investors? He replied, he will work hard to pay us! Why he need to do that, taking a loss making venture of LECRUZ, and why not leave it to LECRUZ to sort out its 'own mess'? He said he is just trying to help everybody. One member said,henceforth, he must be called Saint Senta VJ! not a businessman. It was too obvious for all what is going on!

November 12, 2009 9:01 AM 

Anonymous29 said...

From the look of things it was a well planned scam starting with Lecruz and now getting Vtoria into the picture. We hv no choice but to hope for the best and should consider ourselves lucky if we can get our capital back.They are in a casino business and CASINO NEVER lose it's only the general public that gets burnt. Keep praying and hopefully the ALMIGHTY will hv mercy on us.

November 12, 2009 10:38 PM

Anonymous30 said...

Looking at this we can at least partially consider this a scam. Plan for next course of action. As mention above there are now buying time and exposure is what they are now afraid 0ff. The idea of creating links to email is a good one furthermore post link to free hosting site where pictures and files can be uploaded without any legal implication to this blogs. This blog does not host any pictures but it will not be liable for posting external links. Any comments discussion are welcome.

November 13, 2009 12:22 AM

Reply : Anonymous27

Thanks for the encouragement, we really need that.We are a group of  bloggers who have invested our hard earned money into Lecruz.We are investors too, now we are the victims too. Sometimes some of us maybe a bit too emotional, well ,we are all human beings. 

We are very glad to inform you guys that this blog have more than 1,600 hits(visitors) in this month alone! The number is increasing every single day....but the emails and comments received, is still very low. Anyway thanks for all your support and may we help each other, unite and speak in one voice.Thousands of us will definitely create an impact.

For the time being , we would like to say.. keep in touch, "stay cool" and don't create havoc. We still hope that VJ is kind enough to come out with something good for everyone in 3 weeks time.

 

About 3rd Nov. meeting we only got a bit of information as posted yesterday.

 LAT

Anonymous27 said...

To put the record straight I support this Blog and MR LAT - lecruzpenang@gmail.com you have been doing a good job actually fantastically good job. I know it is sometime very frustrating dealing with people. Understandably there is no reward from running this blog , people abuse you but most of us are the good type those who follow the Que when we stop at the traffic light and a few who do not. Human Nature so I just want to give you some encouragement as nobody is doing it they just take and take until there is no more so Keep up the good work . I do not know who you are but one day we would like to know who you are at this time keep the current profile it is acceptable. What I would not like to see is the inaction as I notice nobody did sound the alarm about Nov 3. Information is the key nothing means dead for 4 days after Nov 5 there were nothing posted until Nov 9 when the Sin Chew Article broke and only one guy wrote a comment there should be an alarm sounded right after Nov 3 we are very weak. I am not questioning anything here or trying to put the blog down. So Hope you do not take this negatively I still say you did a good job continue with it be more aggressive. What say you all for Mr LAT.

November 10, 2009 7:15 PM

Reply :Anonymous26 for the Non-Chinese(1 Malaysia)

 Since you guys have keep on writing in and requested for the translation. Allow us to give you some tips.Anything on the internet can be easily translated with Google search.

1.Go to the link about the Sin Chew daily

2. Copy the URL( the address bar on top of your browser)

3. Go to Google search...paste on the search bar and search

On the search result ,immediately after the link click on ...[translate this page]

or forget about the above and click here ...

But don't read anything yet coz' the headlines itself will give you a Heart Attack!!! 

Replace the following :

Proxy = Junket  

false.70000 women = (cheated RM70,000), women...

1000 Group = Scam Group

Port Dickson Naidu = a lady from Port Dickson 

Naidu =  Lady

 It may not be 100% but at least you get 95% of the news direct from Google.You also will get a good laugh reading it again without replacing the above words. Different meaning right? 

So guys from the above we realized that when news travel through different media it produces different meaning. Therefore please write something that you are sure of ,please don't guess or create stories through your emotion. Many people are reluctant to translate it into English coz' they are afraid if certain people got the wrong meaning then the translator are to be blamed. In fact there are people asking us not to spread this news but to be fair we teach you how to translate.

 

3rd Nov. meeting already posted.Please refer to the older post.

LAT

 Anonymous26 said...

For the benifit of those who are unable to read (esp the non chinese) as reported in Sin Chew - can someone please explain in simple English what's the whole thing about. Also can we hv some info of what was discussed & the outcome of the 3rdNov meeting, please. November 9, 2009 11:12 PM  

Reply : Anonymous25

Yup! We aware of vtoria.com , was brought up by Ipoh blogspot  before, it was registered on 29th Sept.2009 by our VJ as the sole owner and going to be launched this 15th Nov.2009. All the stockist already got their points there but we still do not know what is the conversion rate like. Some of you still not aware, it also brought up in this blog itself. Within 3 weeks VJ will come out with the new payment plan.stay cool!Hope it will be good for everyone.

LAT

Anonymous25 said...

Please check this website http://www.vtoria.com/index.htm Can you read in bet the lines and who do you think could be behind this? Doesn't it looks like an image of Lecruz and it could be the reorganisation that's being awaited!

November 10, 2009 3:11 PM

Reply : 23 and Anonymous24

We hear that there was a long waiting followed by a long meeting from 10.30pm till 4.30am. as what   Anonymous22 said,VJ did mentioned that he wanted to refund the capital but did not state when and how. He will come out with a payment plan in a month time(fr.3rd Nov).

Sorry to say that none of us(the blogger team) was in the meeting. We are still awaiting for someone kind enough to write in but so far none.All the information we got is from a 3rd party hopefully  someone in the committee is willing to write in.

LAT

Anonymous said...

Sorry the post seem to be addressing the wrong issue. What I want to know is why there is no news what happen on 3rd Nov ?why there is no information and what make me really mad is that there are claim that those in the know has monopolies all info , only inform the privilege few well if this is true then when I sign up i should have use my collection of Jap Banana money instead I use RM. You cannot do this you have to keep all of us inform regardless so we at least know whats happening. More so I am very disappointed that those agents who happily take our money now think we are the enemy because of us the investor Lecruz is in deep shit well think again we are the guys the thousand of us who feed you so please own up to your responsibility and stop acting like small boys and do your job. 23.

November 10, 2009 12:25 AM

Anonymous24 said...

This post seems to be the only way we investors have a say. Some of the upline, mine included, don't seem to care that we have lost so much. Not an ounce of remorse or empathy to our plight. The attitude is on the defensive and the always the same "no one forced you to invest". Only if we are united can we acheive something. My side leader not interested to form group or do anything. Just wait for out come. Hoping some more definite group can be formed to speak as one. Half the people in the committee, are for company so how can we acheive anything???

November 10, 2009 3:12 AM