- Those who went for the meeting, in Genting on 3 Nov, came back no wiser. They all feel being fooled by VJ and gang of 8. (They were made to wait like fools in the corridor, from 8pm till 5am. Actual meeting took place in VJ's bed room for one hour or so around midnight!) I wish blogger can do something to the blog, so that those want to be in loop of LECRUZ SCAM chain e-mail can be included. ie they can leave their e-mail address here and we can e-mail them the sensitive pictures, vedios and other details on LECRUZ SCAM. Those info n pictures we can't put on blog and risk the blogger get into legal tangle. This aspect of networking is missing. Someone please think to fill in this gap somehow. VJ apparently gave vague answers, not commiting anything specific for anybody to be optimistic. Everybody feel,they will make away with most of the money, if possible. The fact is they ONLY FEAR OF TSUNAMI INVESTOR REACTION. They are doing all they can to buy time for the response to die down or as last resort HOODWINK US TO SIGN SOME AGREEMENT WITH VJ ( probably thru "Vtoria.com" ) TO ABSOLVE LECRUZ OF RESPONSIBLITY. VJ will then probably declare himself bankrupt, and legally this issue is closed! The group which went for meeting, claim tried their best, to get ONLY refund of balance capital (without interest) within next 6 months - even that VJ refused to commit. (He only committed to come with new schedule of payment, with August and September investors getting 50% capital refund, by end of November.Hopefully.) His excuse was, they made hardly any money for month of August and September, due to overpayment of high divident. So he was questioned how is he going to pay the investors? He replied, he will work hard to pay us! Why he need to do that, taking a loss making venture of LECRUZ, and why not leave it to LECRUZ to sort out its 'own mess'? He said he is just trying to help everybody. One member said,henceforth, he must be called Saint Senta VJ! not a businessman. It was too obvious for all what is going on!
- From the look of things it was a well planned scam starting with Lecruz and now getting Vtoria into the picture. We hv no choice but to hope for the best and should consider ourselves lucky if we can get our capital back.They are in a casino business and CASINO NEVER lose it's only the general public that gets burnt. Keep praying and hopefully the ALMIGHTY will hv mercy on us.
- November 12, 2009 10:38 PM
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Anonymous30 said...
- Looking at this we can at least partially consider this a scam. Plan for next course of action. As mention above there are now buying time and exposure is what they are now afraid 0ff. The idea of creating links to email is a good one furthermore post link to free hosting site where pictures and files can be uploaded without any legal implication to this blogs. This blog does not host any pictures but it will not be liable for posting external links. Any comments discussion are welcome.
Friday, November 13, 2009
Reply : Anonymous28,29&30
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Reply : Anonymous27
- To put the record straight I support this Blog and MR LAT - lecruzpenang@gmail.com you have been doing a good job actually fantastically good job. I know it is sometime very frustrating dealing with people. Understandably there is no reward from running this blog , people abuse you but most of us are the good type those who follow the Que when we stop at the traffic light and a few who do not. Human Nature so I just want to give you some encouragement as nobody is doing it they just take and take until there is no more so Keep up the good work . I do not know who you are but one day we would like to know who you are at this time keep the current profile it is acceptable. What I would not like to see is the inaction as I notice nobody did sound the alarm about Nov 3. Information is the key nothing means dead for 4 days after Nov 5 there were nothing posted until Nov 9 when the Sin Chew Article broke and only one guy wrote a comment there should be an alarm sounded right after Nov 3 we are very weak. I am not questioning anything here or trying to put the blog down. So Hope you do not take this negatively I still say you did a good job continue with it be more aggressive. What say you all for Mr LAT.
- November 10, 2009 7:15 PM
Reply :Anonymous26 for the Non-Chinese(1 Malaysia)
- For the benifit of those who are unable to read (esp the non chinese) as reported in Sin Chew - can someone please explain in simple English what's the whole thing about.
Also can we hv some info of what was discussed & the outcome of the 3rdNov meeting, please.
November 9, 2009 11:12 PM
Tuesday, November 10, 2009
Reply : Anonymous25
- Please check this website http://www.vtoria.com/index.htm Can you read in bet the lines and who do you think could be behind this? Doesn't it looks like an image of Lecruz and it could be the reorganisation that's being awaited!
- November 10, 2009 3:11 PM
Reply : 23 and Anonymous24
- Sorry the post seem to be addressing the wrong issue. What I want to know is why there is no news what happen on 3rd Nov ?why there is no information and what make me really mad is that there are claim that those in the know has monopolies all info , only inform the privilege few well if this is true then when I sign up i should have use my collection of Jap Banana money instead I use RM. You cannot do this you have to keep all of us inform regardless so we at least know whats happening. More so I am very disappointed that those agents who happily take our money now think we are the enemy because of us the investor Lecruz is in deep shit well think again we are the guys the thousand of us who feed you so please own up to your responsibility and stop acting like small boys and do your job. 23.
- November 10, 2009 12:25 AM
- Anonymous24 said...
- This post seems to be the only way we investors have a say. Some of the upline, mine included, don't seem to care that we have lost so much. Not an ounce of remorse or empathy to our plight. The attitude is on the defensive and the always the same "no one forced you to invest". Only if we are united can we acheive something. My side leader not interested to form group or do anything. Just wait for out come. Hoping some more definite group can be formed to speak as one. Half the people in the committee, are for company so how can we acheive anything???
Monday, November 9, 2009
Reply : Anonymous 23
- Looking at things it is now call " Friend Friend club " buddy with me tell me good things I keep you inform if not sorry you sit and do guess work.When I sign up my money and those who are your buddy different colour? Maybe they use gold bullion. Who to blame if we do guess work ? nobody because if I don't know and nobody want to talk about it I will certainly go to whoever and where ever to ask, wrong person, wrong place, wrong authority. This blog is the right place to start , put the members first not yourself as you guys have even more to loose then us. Think about it Mr Leader do not wait until more " informative " link appear and don't blame us if your detail get listed not here but out there. Can be difficult but you all have taken people money with a promise what do you expect worst still you all keep yourself inform now if you were to turn this around how would you feel? Unless you all admit that this is a scam and you are all scammer then no blame. The old lady which has invested thinking that she has made a smart choice is wrong no more discussion. Go and make hell out there. So Like Lecruz Say - Be SMART not too late.
Reply : Anonymous22
- It is a problem that those went for the meeting in Genting somehow did not passed the message to all their downline. I believed majority of investors still in the dark. Somehow I heard that VJ only said he wanted to refund us the capital but did not mention when and how.He need one month to come out with the new payment schedule,Yup! About one month then only he will come out with the payment plan but don't know when he will start to pay, don't know how much and also don't know how long he will continue paying yet. I don't blame the lady for going to the media coz' many investors still did not know about the Genting Meeting until today. Why??? ...When recruiting new members - everybody and anybody are welcome to the dinner meeting But after 2nd Oct 2009 only those who are supportive to the leaders are being informed and allowed to come for the meeting. Like what being mentioned in this blog before many of those in the new committee are there for shouting " Yes", "Good" and also clapping hands lo.That's why a lot of people still in the dark.I won't be surprised some of the investors could have confronted Bukit Aman or even Interpol maybe Macau authority. I personally feels that going to the media is still too early but on the other hand 1 month for VJ to just come out with a payment plan is too long la!He should have pre-plan all this also ma.. like what he did in Sept...New plan you don't like; within 2 weeks can come out with another top up plan,then Sept.itself come out another website(Vtoria.com) new plan somemore.Right?
Reply : Anonymous20&21
- It appears that this whole thing has gone to the media by seeing a link to Sin Chew Daily... I don't know if its a wise idea, but hopefully what has been mentioned on 3rd November can be fulfilled.
- November 9, 2009 1:24 AM
- Anonymous21 said...
- What was mention on 3rd Nov ??????????????????????????????????????? Looks like nobody KNOWS.
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